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Sunday, June 27, 2010

butterfly Tenergy 25 table tennis

Butterfly Tenergy 25

The at the table 25 version of Butterfly Tenergy gets tagged together in this TT forum list.

Looping Heavy Underspin with Tenergy

Interesting web site. Just discovered it. I am a mid 1900's player and have used Tenergy 05 and then 64 for a couple years now (same on both sides). I like, need and want the built-in speed glue effect but sometimes find Tenergy a bit "hard" (all versions) and difficult to slow-loop with or loop with in general (against underspin that is) w/o much force behind the ball. Topspin looping and re-looping is all good but heavy chops/pushes are often difficult to lift b/c of the sponge hardness and the fact that the ball leaves the paddle quickly with short dwell time, etc.

Which Butterfly Tenergy thickness is best for your game?

1.7 mm
6% (13 votes)
1.9 mm
34% (75 votes)
2.1 mm
61% (135 votes)
Total votes: 223

tenergy 25 vs 64

tenergy 25 vs 64 compared

These 2 Butterfly Tenergy series rubbers are at the polar extremes (until the FX versions come out).  In this review I intend to focus only on the differences of playing with both these rubbers from my own experience of using them and playing against them.  A review without considering what others say about the rubbers.

Tenergy 25

$75.00

Buy Tenergy 25

Butterfly Tenergy 25 is the spiny power drive rubber made for over the table play specially.  Buy the cheapest Butterfly Table Tennis rubber: Tenergy 25, with free shipping for orders over $150 Australian dollars.  That means, if you buy 2 tenergy rubbers you get free shipping to anywhere in the world.
$75.00
one side red & one side black are the ITTF rules
thicker = more spin and speed, thinner more control

Is tenergy good for backhand?

Is any rubber good for your backhand, depends on your ability.  If your backhand is active, you loop with it, you can receive serves well enough, then this is nothing wrong at all with using Tenergy on your backhand. 
Tenergy 25 however, is probably not the best choice for the great majority of players.  The backhand tends to require something, softer and lighter because the stroke is less powerful.  Heavier and harder rubbers are made to be penetrated into, and something like tenergy 25 requires a good swing to get the most out of it.

Is Butterfly Tenergy rubber soft?

Butterfly Table Tennis Tenergy rubbers are not hard nor soft.  The Tenergy series is medium to medium hard feeling rubbers.  The feeling goes from t25 harder, t05 in the middle and t64 feels the softest.  When FX comes out it will be the softest.

weight of tenergy rubber

The weight of Butterfly Tenergy rubbers

Most people say the weight of the tenergy rubber is the one of the biggest trade offs for using such consistantly playing table tennis equipment.
The weight and density of the medium hard sponge is the same for tenergy 05, tenergy 64 and tenergy 25. The surface of thickness and compostition is exactly the same for all the Tenergy rubbers also.  So the only difference between the Butterfly tenergy series is the pip width and spacing.
difference between tenergy 05 25 64 Japanese Tenaji

Tenergy 25 flick

Tenergy 25 is the best Butterfly Tenergy series rubber for forehand flicking

When do we use a forehand flick?

  • When we want to attack short balls which are going to bounce twice on our side of the net Tenergy 25 is excellent at flipping the ball.  No matter which kind of spin the serves have on them, if they are short (and you don't want to push a heavy backspin) Tenergy 25 has the greatest ease at giving this more offensive stroke because of the pip shape. 

How to forehand flick with Tenergy 25?

Butterfly Tenergy by Jun Mizutani

In the Butterfly table tennis catalog 2010 there are 2 pages devoted to Tenergy 05, Tenergy 64 and Tenergy 25.

[tablemanager:3] sorry had to remove the sortable table because it was bugging out the site. :(

butterfly tenergy rubber

Butterfly Tenergy rubber advertisement in German

Butterfly Tenergy 64

The Long distance looping rubber Tenergy 64s home page.

butterfly tenergy 64 rubbers

T64 is known as the "speed effect" rubber.

Tenergy 64's speed

With the speed rating by butterfly at 13.5, it is only 0.5 slower than the fastest rubber Bryce Speed 14. Everyone says its very dynamic in how quick it works in a number of broader gears.  Some even defy Butterfly the company and say it is faster than Bryce Speed.  It has that butterfly punch feeling even though it leans a touch more toward the loop side.
tenergy 64 close up brisbane australia

Korea vs Chile butterfly tenergy users

The final game in the semi finals Chile vs Korea at the Brisbane table tennis centre Brisbane Open 2010.  They both use Tenergy.  Bruno uses tenergy 64 and Jo Doc tenergy 05.  I wish I got more of this on film.  I think this semi final was much more interesting then the final with Bruno vs William Henzell, which I will post one of these days.

Timo Boll beat Ma Long World Team Championships 2010

Ma Long won the first two games only to lose the next three games.  China is packing it now!  It has been a while since I have seen Boll beat Ma Long but it was worth the wait.  Totally amazing match.  Ma Long didn't look as pumped as he usually is probably because he was making more errors than he usually does.  The fifth set was so dramatic!

World table tennis championships moscow Ma Long vs Jun Mizutani

One of the best matches I have ever seen Jun Mizutani play. His defense work and countering work are just sensational against the Ma Long monster at the 2010 Table Tennis
Championships in Moscow.  Both these boys are using Butterfly tenergy 64 on their blades.  Mizutani uses it on both sides and Ma Long has it on his backhand. 
After the match, Liu Guoliang said he was satisfied with the play against Japan who has uprisen as one of China's close rivals.
"I have faith and confidence in my team and each player," he said. "Talking about the upcoming final match, I can't say who exactly will play. My choice depends on the opponent we will face tomorrow."

different strokes

Different strokes have a variety of different outcomes for your opponents. Some equipment has more logical or consistant results. Tenergy 05 has very logical results and is very stable. It does what you expect it more often than other rubbers. Tenergy 64 is more dynamic with the same stroke being much more varied depending on the incoming ball and how much you hit into it. For Example, to make it clear, the extreme case of doing the same stroke but getting different outcomes can be seen when using long pimples.

Looping Heavy Underspin with Tenergy

Interesting web site. Just discovered it. I am a mid 1900's player and have used Tenergy 05 and then 64 for a couple years now (same on both sides). I like, need and want the built-in speed glue effect but sometimes find Tenergy a bit "hard" (all versions) and difficult to slow-loop with or loop with in general (against underspin that is) w/o much force behind the ball. Topspin looping and re-looping is all good but heavy chops/pushes are often difficult to lift b/c of the sponge hardness and the fact that the ball leaves the paddle quickly with short dwell time, etc.

Timo Boll Spirit

So as I promised myself after the Queensland state closed I was finally going to really try to switch off from my beloved Butterfly Ishlion.
Yes I love the Ishlion, but I feel I really want get more spin into my game and the Timo Boll Spirit has been on my mind for so long!  I tried a Timo Boll ALC about a year ago but I gave up on it too quickly and went straight back to my Ishion.  I think the added weight and dwell bugged me with my then unmoving love of tenergy 05 so much that I would only use a blade that played best with tenergy 05.

Tenergy 64 on Matsushita Pro Defensive Blade

I play Modern Defensive.
I chop on my backhand with long pips and I chop or attack on my forehand with inverted.
I have been playing for about a year. 
 
My Setup:
Matsushita Pro Defensive blade and Tenergy 64 Black 1.7 Thickness 
Currently

tenergy is the best

I am world Arabic new under 18 champion i beat omar assar 4 1 in final . and in my country in Syria junior champion and from mens rank no.4 i lose in semi-final because they are playing with still seed glue :P in Lebanon Lebanese second place i lose from avo moumjghlian he is 7 years cadet to junior champion he is sponsor of butterfly he play very good , and he's blade is amultart with tenergy 05 05 he plays he is robot :P you can find him on www.avomoumjoghlian.com i play with Michael maze and with 2 tenergy 64's :P it is fats rubbers and the blade is control it can do = balance :P it to good but we need tenergy 64 fx to play with that rubber :P thx so much bye.